# Compatibility [01] Chains

This article explains bicycle chain compatibility – which chains can be combined with which number of “speeds” (cassettes and cranks). From one to 12 speeds.

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TL/DR

## TL/DR

Briefly put: you can use chains for more speeds with fewer-speed cassettes (and front chainrings), but not vice versa (at least not with cassettes – front chainrings are more forgiving for any mismatch).

For example: an 11-speed chain works fine on a 9-speed cassette (and cranks), but a 9-speed chain won’t be OK on an 11-speed cassette.

I’ve also explained the chain pitch, construction, and brielfy discussed symmetrical vs asymmetrical chains and added a table with chain widths depending on the number of “speeds.” You can use the table of contents to skip to the parts of interest.

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## 1. Basic bicycle chain facts

All the bicycle chains share the same pitch of half an inch.

Where chains differ is the width. The more speeds, the narrower chain. Single-speed chains are the widest, both on the outside, and the inner roller width. They have a roller width of 1/8″ (3.175 mm).

The inner roller width of all the multi-speed chains is almost the same, being:

• Single-speed chains have an inner width of 1/8″ (3.175 mm).
• Multi-speed chains, from 5 to 8 speeds have an inner width of 3/32″ (2.38 mm).
• Multi-speed chains from 9 to 12 speeds have an inner width of 11/128″ (2.18 mm).
• An “exotic” standard for freight bicycles is a chain width of 5/32″ (4 mm).

Where they differ significantly is the outer width.

How to connect and disconnect chains, with or without using quick links, video demonstration:

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## 2. Single-speed chains

Single-speed chains are the widest of all. Both by the outer and the inner roller width: 1/8″ (3.175 mm) wide, compared to 3/32″ (2.38 mm) multi-speed ones. Since single speed chain is by far the cheapest, there is no need to experiment with multi-speed chains. However, 6 to 8-speed chains can fit some single speed bicycles – depending on the chainring width.

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## 3. Five, 6, 7 and 8-speed chains

A 7.1 mm wide 8-speed chain* will fit all the other systems (5, 6 and 7-speed ones).  Shimano, SRAM and Campagnolo all use the same chain with 8 speeds. The chain for 7 speeds is a bit wider – 7.3 mm, while a 6-speed one is substantially wider – 7.8 mm. That is why the reverse is not the case and a 7-speed chain and especially a 6-speed one will not work very well on an 8-speed system.

* Based on my most recent measurements, 8-speed chain widths vary from 7 mm (SRAM PC-830), to 7.3 mm (KMC X-8). Also, some manufacturers (like KMC) make their 6, 7, and 8-speed chains using the same width of 7.3 mm. This (and my personal experience with 7.3 mm wide KMC chains) leads me to conclude that 7.3 mm wide chains work fine for 8 speed cassettes. Also, as noted in this article, using a narrower chain works fine in practice (hence, the 7.3 mm wide chain runs fine on a 6-speed cassette). However, don’t let this “fool you” into using any 6-speed chain on an 8-speed cassette, since you might run into a 7.8 mm wide chain (i.e. “a proper 6-speed chain”), which won’t work very nice on an 8-speed cassette (haven’t tried it on a 7-speed one, but generally, extra-wide chains don’t fare very well, while narrower ones usually run without any problems).

Of others, 9-speed chains can work. They’re a bit narrower than optimal, but can be used. The reverse is not wise, since a wider 5 – 8 speed chain can get stuck between narrower 9-speed sprockets.

Going further narrower, like a 10, or 11-speed chain on an 8-speed cassette can and often does work.
I’ve had good results even with running a 10-speed chain on a 7-speed cassette and cranks.
However, especially with older 6-speed cassettes combined with 11, or 12-speed chains, there is a risk of the chain getting stuck between the cassette sprocket teeth and/or poorer shifting.

An exception is SRAM 1x systems, for DH MTB bicycles – they have 7 rear sprockets, but use an 11-speed chain!

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## 4. 9 speeds

The chain width is about 6.7 mm. In a pinch, a 10-speed chain can be used. Still, the narrower chain is more expensive, doesn’t last as long *1 and might cause a bit slower shifting… but it will work. Problems generally occur at the rear – on cassettes. Front chainrings are less sensitive to the thickness of the chain used.

Otherwise, all the 9-speed chains will work well, regardless of the manufacturer: Campagnolo, SRAM and Shimano.

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## 5. 10 speeds

The chain width is 5.88 mm. Same as for 9 speeds: all the manufacturers can be mixed and a chain for one speed more can be used in a pinch – an 11 -speed chain in this case.

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## 6. 11 speeds

The chain width is 5.62 mm. 11-speed chains of all the manufacturers are mutually compatible.

Since 10 and 11-speed chains (as well as cassette teeth) have almost the same widths, a 10-speed chain can be used instead of an 11 speed-one, without it jamming between the sprockets. However, this will still not work perfectly and will cause premature sprocket wear, so better to avoid it.

The exception are Shimano Hyperglide+ chains, which work only with Hyperglide+ cassettes, whether they are 11, or 12-speed (the same chain is used) – according to Shimano, haven’t put that to the test.

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## 7. 12 speeds

Chain width is 5.25 mm. Made by SRAM, and (from mid-2018) by Shimano for their 12-speed MTB groupsets (for now), and Campagnolo (who only make road groupsets). They generally work with fewer speed systems, with two “catches:”

1. SRAM Flattop chains might skip on cassettes that are not SRAM AXS road cassettes (they have a bit larger diameter rollers and can skip on “normal” cassettes, including SRAM Eagle MTB cassettes).
2. Shimano Hyperglide+ 11 and 12-speed chains work nicely only with Hyperglide+ chainrings and cassettes.

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## 8. Symmetrical vs asymmetrical chains

Shimano is, as far as I know, the only manufacturer that makes asymmetrical chains (as well as regular, symmetrical ones). The advantage of an asymmetrical chain is easier and quicker shifting from the small to the large front chainring and vice versa.

The picture above shows how the asymmetrical chain doesn’t have the same outer plates for the “outer” and “inner” (towards the bicycle) side.

When Shimano first introduced asymmetrical chains for road double chainrings, it was recommended not to use them on triple chainrings. They still, however, work well on triple chainrings as well.

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## 9. Chain width standards table

Table of chain outer widths:
(this table is for the readers’ convenience – an up-to-date table is in the article about bicycle chain standards)

Related post – How to shorten a new chain to size when mounting:

Compatibility posts are also available in eBook (printable and Kindle) and paperback editions on Amazon:

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1. I did a bicycle chain durability test and concluded that, in practice, chain durability depends on its build quality, not on its number of speeds (i.e. its thickness). ↩︎

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## 74 thoughts on “Compatibility [01] Chains”

1. I think that newer shimano hg50 chain is the replacement for the hg40 chains,i had a good look at the newer shimano 8 speed hg50 chain at a local bike shop and its also an ebike rated chain,shimano hg40 chain was sold as a narrow hyperglide chain for 6,7 and 8 speeds, kmc chains have very different specs and they usually sell just one chain for just one speed,x 8 being an 8 speed chain,to get good use out of a shimano hyperglide chain you also need to run hyperglide cassettes for very fast shifting,the shimano hg40 chain is foolproof and i only use those chains on my 8 speed bike.kmc quicklinks are very easy to find for the hg 40 chain,i would not use any shimano chain joiners i found kmc ones very good

2. the shimano hg40 chain is a very nice chain to run,i have been using those for a long time,they are better suited for an a 8 speed cassette and they will run on a hg50 cassette or an 8 speed hg41 hyperglide cassette but they run a little smoother on a newer hg 41 cassette,the chains are very durable and long lasting,i have never had a problem with them,even before i used a kmc quicklink i used to just break the chain with my chain tool and rejoin it using that same link pin,i know everyone says dont do that but its an option that works well if you have no quicklink

3. Thanks for the info Mike. 🙂
I’ll check to confirm this with some Shimano, SRAM and KMC models and update the table.
Probably not before September though (taking a bit of a workshop break). 🙂

4. kmc do make two type quicklinks for 7 and 8 speed chains,one quicklink is 7.1mm and i have seen that one,whos chain it is for i dont know and it could even be for an older kmc chain as it has kmc 7/8 written on the link,they also do that 7.3 mm quicklink for shimano 7/8 speed chain and thats a wrap i dont have any other info cheers

5. kmc make 5 different types of 8 speed chains so maybe one of those is 7.1 mm width,i will do some digging and see if i can find who is making 7.1 mm 8 speed chains,,i think shimano does 3 of 8 speed chains,the shimano hg40 chain that i use is definatly a 7.3 mm pin width,that does not mean all 8 speed chains have that same width