To help prevent mistakes when purchasing or changing seatposts, this article explains what kinds of seatpost diameters are most commonly used and how they are measured. Only diameter (width) is dealt with here. The length of the seatpost depends on frame geometry (design) and size – i.e. how much the saddle needs to be raised from the end of the seat tube. A separate article explains the maximum amount of seatpost extension from the frame (minimal insertion length). For seatpost height in terms of bicycle fitting, see: Setting up comfortable riding position.
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TL/DR
If your seatpost is too wide, it won’t fit in the frame (and will get badly stuck if you force it). If it’s too narrow, it will slip (and your frame might crack when you tighten it).
Here, I’ve explained:
- How to measure your frame and your seatpost?
- Which size standards exist?
The latter is important because if you measure 27.18 mm, for example, it’s good to know that it’s most probably the 27.2 mm standard (as the other standards are 0.2 mm apart: 27.0, and 27.4 mm).
0. Terms
It is important to understand two terms:
- “seat tube” – the tube in the frame that holds the seatpost.
- “seatpost” – the post the saddle is mounted on.
Picture 1 shows a seatpost (1), and a seat tube (2):
1. A bit of history
The first bicycle frames were made mostly from steel, with steel tubes of a standard (outer) diameter. The British and Italian standard diameter for seat tubes was 1 1/8″ (28.6 mm). Older French bicycles used 28 mm tubing. Old US bicycles (mostly BMX and older bikes that used one-piece cranks) was 1″ (25.4 mm).
Standard outer diameter dimensions were important so that derailleur clamps etc. could be made in exact matching sizes (derailleur clamp inner diameter needs to match the seat tube’s outer diameter). Higher quality frames are usually made with thinned down tube walls to reduce the weight of the frame. This meant that a wider seatpost diameter usually meant a higher quality (and lighter) frame. So high-quality frames with 1 1/8″ seat tubes usually had 27.2 mm wide seatposts.
A more modern trend, mostly on mountain bikes, where stronger seatposts are required (without too much extra weight) led to a new “oversized” standard of 27.4 mm (and wider).
2. Measuring required seatpost diameter
“One (precise) measurement is often better than a thousand expert opinions” – author’s expert opinion. 🙂
How to measure the seatpost diameter? The easiest and most accurate method is to use calipers (Vernier, or digital), as shown in picture 2.
Source: forums.mtbr.com
Picture 2
It can be seen from picture 2 that the seatpost is marked as 31.6 mm wide (and 410 mm long), while it really measures only 31.42 mm. This means the seatpost will probably not fit firmly enough to stay in place inside a seat tube meant for 31.6 mm wide seatposts. Always measure! 🙂
Measuring a seat tube diameter is often necessary before purchasing, or changing the seatpost. How should one do that? Three methods will be explained here, but one can always be creative. 🙂
Method 1: if the frame already has a mounted matching seatpost – one that attaches firmly enough so it doesn’t slide, while being narrow enough to allow easy mounting and dismounting – then it is sufficient to measure its outer diameter, as was explained above in the section – “How to measure the seatpost diameter?”.
Method 2: using calipers, as shown in picture 3.
Source: forums.mtbr.com
Picture 3
Yes, calipers are not highly accurate or precise for measuring inner diameters, but you can get the ballpark value with some trial and error (to make the sure that the invisible line that goes from one jaw’s bite point to the other jaw’s bite point goes through the centre of the tube). 3-point bore gauge is the proper tool for the job, technically.
Method 3: using special seat post sizing rods. These are rods with an increasing diameter from one end to the other, with a scale noting the diameter in standard sizes. The rod is simply placed in the seat tube and the matching diameter is the one just above the end of the seat tube (the first visible number on the rod still sticking out of the tube). Place a screwdriver through a hole at the top of the rod, just to make sure it doesn’t drop all the way in if the sizing rod is too small. 🙂
Source: bikeforums.net
Picture 4
Since measuring often can’t be done to a 1/100 of a millimeter in accuracy, the next section gives a list of the most commonly used standard seatpost diameters. If a measured diameter differs, it can be assumed that the correct diameter is the standard one that most closely matches the measured diameter.
3. Standard seatpost diameters
Table 1 gives a list (in mm) of standard diameter sizes:
Table 1
Seatpost diameters are usually a multiple of 0.2 mm (but not always, as tables 1 and 2 show). If a measured value differs and most closely matches a value that is not a multiple of 0.2, there is a high probability that the closest multiple of 0.2 mm size will fit. For example, a measured 25.5 will most probably fit a 25.4 mm wide (nominal and measured width) seatpost. A rule of thumb is that the widest post that slides in without being forced (other than pushing or twisting by hand) is the right one. If it drops in, with play, before the pinch bolt is tightened, the seatpost is probably too narrow.
A few notes, just in case:
- If a seatpost wobbles or rocks left-right (before tightening the clamp), it is probably too narrow.
- Don’t punch it in. If it can’t be eased in by hand, it’s probably too wide. Forcing it in makes it very, very difficult to move or take out later. It might even damage some frames.
For easier managing, table 2 gives an overview of seatpost diameters most commonly used on modern bicycles (from the end of the 20th century to now).
Table 2
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I want to use a 31.8 or 30,9 dropper post on my 34.9 seatpost. what shims would work for this?
I’d look for an adapter that notes those very dimensions: 34.9 to 31.8, or 34.9 to 30.9 (depending on the choice).
where can I find that
Amazon search (affiliate link):
Seatpost reducer (adapter, shim)
Bike24
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https://www.bike-components.de/en/s/?keywords=seatpost%20reducer
It might take time to source the particular needed combination, but Google and local bicycle shops are a way to go.
What size diameter seatpost do I need for my 1960’s 3 speed Tote Cycle and where can I get original old stock chrome one. Thank you.
Don’t know – best way to find out is to measure the bike’s seat tube inner diameter.
Thank you, Will do.
Another way to measure the circumference, albeit not super exact, is to use a measure tape and tie it around the seatpost.
If memory serves me well, dividing that with the number Pi should give the diameter.
Haven’t tried the method, but I suspect it to be too imprecise for this use.
I’m upgrading my bike and my post I’m cangi g from a 26.8 to a 31.6. I’m buying a vernier because I cannot get a accurate measurements for a setpost adapter. The spacer I’m hoping that will work is a 26.8-31.8. My question is will I have to purchase to seat post clamps for this to work and be safe?
Not sure I understand the setup, but, if a narrower seatpost is to be inserted, using an adapter to fit the difference between the seat tube, and the seat post – then no need to change the clamp, if it’s in good condition.
However, if seatpost is to be extended by more than some 20 centimetres, I would look for a well matching seatpost, not use an adapter – because adapters are usually not very deep (long), so won’t offer much of a support for the seatpost. Hope I’ve explained well what I mean.
Measuring the circumference of the post and dividing by Pi is a good method. There are even circumference tape measures to do it.
If you don’t have calipers, you’re hard-pressed to get the diameter. An adjustable wrench can be used as calipers, then measure the gap on the wrench. However, it’s almost impossible to distinguish 0.2 mm increments with a tape measure.
But measuring the circumference means you only have to distinguish a 0.6 mm difference (because everything is multiplied by 3.14…), which is doable.
Measuring the size of the hole in the seat post—well, that requires ID calipers, gauges, or sticking something into it then marking it so you can measure it like the seat post. That will introduce more error. For example, take some poster board (stiff paper), roll it up, insert it, and let it expand to fill the hole. Making sure it’s fully expanded & secure, mark the edge of the paper with a marker. Pull out the paper, unroll it, and measure between the edge and the mark (and divide by Pi).
I’ve done it before, and it does work well enough.
Thanks, Greg. All good ideas that would work, better, or worse, depending on one’s preference, and availability of tools. 🙂
This reminded me of the barometer question/dilemma. 🙂