Compatibility [04] Rear derailleurs

Compatibility [04] Rear derailleurs

Updated: 27/01/2019.

This post explains bicycle rear derailleur compatibility, i.e. what derailleurs can work with which number of rear sprockets (cassettes) and which rear shifters. For explanation of other rear derailleur functioning and limitations, such as chain wrap capacity, read this article: Rear derailleur.


Basic terms and what to pay attention to

Most modern bicycles have index shifters, that work with a certain number of clicks. One click per gear change. That is moving the chain from one sprocket/chainring to another with each click.

In order for this to work, these things need to be in tune:

  • Length of cable that shifter pulls/releases with each click. This is called shifter cable pull.
  • Distance that rear derailleur (RD in the remainder of this text) moves laterally per 1 mm of cable movement. This is called rear shift ratio. E.g. if RD moves for 2 mm for 1 mm cable movement (pull or release), then the rear shift ratio is 2.
  • Rear sprocket spacing.

When RD compatibility is mentioned, it is all about it’s tune with the shifter cable pull and rear sprocket spacing. When it is all set up correctly, one click of the indexed shifter shifts exactly and correctly one gear (i.e. one sprocket) at the rear. Compatibility will be explained per number of gears and per manufacturer. If it is not noted otherwise, it is understood that shifter make and number of gears match the RD make and the actual number of rear sprockets. There are three major RD and shifter manufacturer standards:

  1. Shimano
  2. SRAM
  3. Campagnolo
  4. Rotor’s hydraulic derailleurs


1. Shimano

6, 7, 8 and 9 speeds

Rear shift ratio is 1.7, that is for 1 mm of cable pull/release, RD is moved left/right by 1.7 mm. Shimano calls this 2:1 ratio for marketing reasons.

All these RDs are compatible and any 6 to 9 speed RD will work perfectly with either 6, 7, 8 or 9 speed shifter. Regardless whether it’s a MTB, or road shifter, or RD. They are also compatible with Shimano 10 speed road shifters, except the Tiagra 4700 series.

Shimano Dura Ace from 1984 to 1996 period (6 to 8 speeds)

Rear shift ratio is 1.9. They are compatible only with Shimano Dura Ace shifters from the same period (that is for 6, 7 and 8 speeds).

10 speed ROAD RD

Rear shift ratio is 1.7, so it’s compatible with all the 6 to 9 speed shifters, as well as road 10 speed shifters. Same rear shift ratio. MTB 10 (and 11 speed) shifters won’t work well.

Exception is Shimano Tiagra 4700 10 speed road RD – it has the same shift ratio as Shimano road 11 speed RDs, so it will work only with Tiagra 4700 shifters and Shimano 11 speed road shifters.

10 speed MTB RD

Rear shift ratio of this RD is about 1.2. It is only compatible with Shimano 10 speed MTB shifters and nothing else. Shimano calls this system Dyna-Sys.

11 speed ROAD

Rear shift ratio is around 1.4.  Only compatible with Shimano 11 speed road shifters.

The same shift ratio is used for Tiagra 4700 10 speed groupset, so it’s compatible with it as well, but not with other 10 speed road groupsets.

Rear shift ratio of 1.4 matches old Campagnolo ratio, but I haven’t tested this in practice.

11 speed MTB

Rear shift ratio is around 1.1. Compatible with Shimano MTB 11 speed shifters. Shimano calls this system Dyna-Sys, same as 10 speed MTB, but they’re not compatible!

It has similar rear shift ratio to SRAM 1:1 standard (explained later in this post), so it should match it as well, but I haven’t tried it yet!

11 and 12 speed MTB – Hyperglide+ (XTR M9100)

From summer of 2018 Shimano introduces a new Hyperglide+ 11 and 12 speed MTB standard. It comes with a new XTR M9100 rear derailleur, that only works with a matching shifter (which has an integrated 11, or 12 speed operation switch!) and Hyperglide+ 11 and 12 speed cassettes.


2. SRAM

SRAM has four RD families, with 4 different amounts of RD movement per cable movement (actuation ratios). So the only thing to pay attention to is actuation ratio. As long as the RD matches shifter’s actuation ratio (and vice versa), it will work fine.

First, less popular family of SRAM RDs are the ones compatible with Shimano 2:1 standard. Rear shift ratio of 1.7 means they will work with Shimano (and SRAM 2:1) shifters for 6 to 9 speeds (both road and MTB) and road 10 speed ones, except Tiagra 4700 10 speed road shifters.
RDs made in this standard were marketed as 6, 7, 8 and 9 speed models, though this is determined by the shifter – RD doesn’t care how many rear sprockets there are.

Second, more popular SRAM standard is 1:1, with rear shifter ratio of 1.1. This shift ratio is the same as Shimano MTB 11 speed RD (and shifter), so they should be compatible, but I haven’t tested this yet.
RDs made in this standard were marketed as 7, 8 and 9 speed models.

Third, newer standard is Exact Actuation. Rear shifter ratio is 1.3.
Marketed as 10 speed road and MTB , as well as 11 speed road.

Fourth family is X-Actuation, with 1.12 ratio.
Available as 11 and 12 speed MTB RDs 


3. Campagnolo

Campagnolo has two standards of rear shift ratio. Old 1.4 and new 1.5. Also, not every shifter pulls the same amount of cable with each click. With 10 speed for example, there is more cable pull for “slower” speeds, than there is for the others.  2.5 mm pull five times (from smallest 1st to the 6th sprocket), 3 mm for 7th and 8th, then 3.5 mm for 9th and 10th. 2.83 mm average cable pull per click.  🙂

Apart from that, as of 2014 (don’t take my word for the exact year), campagnolo introduces another 11 speed standard. Previous Revolution 11 and the newest Revolution 11+. They are not compatible.

Since Campagnolo cassettes sprocket spacing differs from other manufacturers’, it is hard to combine Campagnolo RDs with anything but the appropriate Campagnolo shifters and in most cases cassettes too.

Table of rear shift ratios for various standards:

Shimano standard – 1.7SRAM 2:1 – 1.7Campagnolo old – 1.4
Shimano 10 MTB – 1.2SRAM 1:1 – 1.1Campagnolo new – 1.5
Shimano 11 road – 1.4SRAM Exact Actuation – 1.3Campagnolo Revolution 11+ – N/A
Shimano 11 MTB – 1.1SRAM X-Actuation – 1.12 
Shimano Dura Ace 6 to 8 speeds – 1.9  


4. Rotor

Rotor’s hydraulic rear derailleurs are only compatible with their hydraulic shifters.

Related post – Bicycle rear hub compatibility:

Compatibility of bicycle rear hubs - which can accept what kinds of sprockets (cassettes)
Compatibility of bicycle rear hubs – which can accept what kinds of “sprockets” (cassettes)

Compatibility posts are also available in eBook (printable and Kindle) and paperback editions on Amazon:

Bicycle Drivetrain Compatibility on Amazon
Bicycle Drivetrain Compatibility on Amazon
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24 thoughts on “Compatibility [04] Rear derailleurs”

  1. Does the new Sora R3000 (which is 9 speed) have any compatibility “gotchas” one should know about? Thanks! Great article!

  2. Wouldn’t you mind add cable pull for Tiagra 4700 derailleur, which *should* be about 1.55? (Derived from 11 speed road pull 1.4, multiplied by 10/9 as there is 9 clicks instead of 10.)

    • Tiagra 4700 Rear Derailleur has exactly the same cable pull ratio as Shimano 11 speed road rear derailleurs, which is 1.4.

  3. Not sure I understand the compatibility so here goes: 1-handed rider (right hand). Standard fitment 11-speed right/rear 105 setup uses Shimano SL-RS700 shifter. Already swapped Shimano left/front for upside-down SRAM 2×11 GX GripShift. Works well. Converting brakes to SRAM TL to mount levers under-over on RH of bar, inboard of GripShifter.
    Question please for the experts out there: If I want to use a SRAM 11x thumb shifter (say GX or XX1) to replace the Shimano RS700 shifter (to use the MatchMaker facility for it on one of the SRAM TL brake lever clamps), would the shifter cable pull be correct for the Shimano 105 rear cassette (Shimano CS-HG700-11, 11×34)? Any help very much appreciated.

    • Sram 11 speed GX and XX1 shifters have X-actuation cable pull.

      That is 3.48 mm of cable pulled/released with each click.

      Shimano 11 speed road cassette has sprockets spaced at 3.74

      For that to work, RD movement ratio (name it M) would need to be:

      3.48 times M should equal 3.74

      M = 3.74 / 3.48 = 1.075

      Shimano 105 11 speed road RD movement ratio is 1.4.

      SRAM and Shimano 11 speed MTB RD movement ratio is 1.1.

      So that is a bit off, but closer. I tried the reverse: using road shifters and RDs on a MTB cassette – and it worked. Haven’t tried the other way round.

      Anyway, the safe, 1:1 aligned choice would be to swap both the RD for a SRAM X-Actuation one. And get an 11 speed MTB cassette (either SRAM, or Shimano).

  4. Relja,
    I truly value this most helpful response which makes total sense and I understand. Thank you too for the suggestion about swapping the RD & cassette. Once I’ve settled on final positioning of the brake levers & bled the systems I’ll get started on the back end & shifter.

    • MTB and road FDs generally aren’t a 1-1 match. In practice, it depends on your riding conditions, your preferences and criteria. While it might not work just perfectly, shift as fast and as accurately as possible, I’ve had quite satisfying results mix-matching those. This especially goes for double (as in not-triple) chainring cranks. There, FD movement has 2 basic positions, that can be limited using the limit screws. So it’s easier to set it up to works satisfactory.

  5. Thanks, was thinking of converting my road bike w/ drop bars to flat bar, I have a Sora 9 speed at rear and triple crankset w/ Sora FD at front, just want to know if Alivio shifters would be compatible as front & rear shifters.

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